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Fri Sep 23 16:06:41 2016  exlt:cassci is going to get a little upgrade/restart tlc - no jobs are running, atm, so perfect time to do so
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Fri Sep 23 19:39:23 2016  thobbs:somebody just asked about a 2.2.8 release in #cassandra, and I realized it's been close to three months since we've had a 2.2 release
Fri Sep 23 19:39:42 2016  thobbs:we have 39 resolved tickets for 2.2.8, which seems like plenty for a release
Fri Sep 23 19:40:09 2016  exlt:yep, that sounds reasonable :)
Fri Sep 23 19:40:23 2016  exlt:I just asked about 3.9/3.8
Fri Sep 23 19:41:28 2016  thobbs:yeah, maybe we could do both at the same tim
Fri Sep 23 19:41:30 2016  driftx:if they're the same, why even release both?
Fri Sep 23 19:41:30 2016  thobbs:time*
Fri Sep 23 19:41:37 2016  thobbs:driftx: just to avoid confusion
Fri Sep 23 19:41:46 2016  thobbs:for why 3.8 doesn't exist
Fri Sep 23 19:41:51 2016  driftx:having two that are the same sounds confusing to me
Fri Sep 23 19:42:03 2016  driftx:"should I use 3.8 or 3.9?" heh
Fri Sep 23 19:42:07 2016  thobbs:yes, it's still a little confusing, but less confusing than skipping 3.8, I think
Fri Sep 23 19:42:15 2016  exlt:bolth
Fri Sep 23 19:42:22 2016  driftx:don't skip then, call 3.9 3.8 instead
Fri Sep 23 19:42:36 2016  thobbs:but then we would have no intention of releasing 3.9
Fri Sep 23 19:42:47 2016  thobbs:and we're behind schedule for both of them, anyway
Fri Sep 23 19:44:29 2016  exlt:so the whole idea of just releasing 3.8 and not doing both was brought up, and there was an explaination of 3.0.9 and 3.9 needing (for some unknown reason to me) to be in lockstep
Fri Sep 23 19:44:47 2016  exlt:that discussion will need to be had with whomever held that opinion
Fri Sep 23 19:45:02 2016  exlt:I will do whatever is the consensus - just let me know :)
Fri Sep 23 19:46:09 2016  thobbs:the need for 3.0.9 eventually outweighed the value of keeping 3.x and 3.0.x releases in lockstep
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Fri Sep 23 19:51:34 2016  driftx:start a vote, don't ask to start a vote ;)
Fri Sep 23 19:52:37 2016  exlt:but I don't have a lot of insight into what devs have in flight and may want to commit - I'd rather ask
Fri Sep 23 19:53:04 2016  ptnapoleon:I mean, that;s what the vote is for?
Fri Sep 23 19:53:13 2016  driftx:you're pmc, just do it.
Fri Sep 23 19:53:38 2016  ptnapoleon:Oh brandon already made the joke I was going to :/
Fri Sep 23 19:53:46 2016  driftx:hah
Fri Sep 23 19:53:49 2016  exlt::)
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Fri Sep 23 20:25:47 2016  exlt:jkni: you reviewed #12253 - gossip/streaming errors look related? http://cassci.datastax.com/view/cassandra-2.2/job/cassandra-2.2_utest/731/testReport/
Fri Sep 23 20:25:49 2016  CassBotJr:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12253 (Resolved; Fixed; 2.2.8, 3.10, 3.0.10): "Fix exceptions when enabling gossip on proxy nodes."
Fri Sep 23 20:26:51 2016  jkni:Not at all, but I have some bandwidth if you want help tracking down what might be related
Fri Sep 23 20:27:37 2016  exlt:that would be awesome - that ticket was the only commit on that particular job, so thought I'd ask
Fri Sep 23 20:28:04 2016  jkni:Sure. I'll take a look and see if I can find any leads
Fri Sep 23 20:28:13 2016  exlt:thanks
Fri Sep 23 20:32:38 2016  jkni:looks the same as #12445 to me - some of the tests in that run have failed historically but not bunched up like that
Fri Sep 23 20:32:41 2016  CassBotJr:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12445 (Resolved; Fixed; 2.2.8, 3.0.9, 3.8): "StreamingTransferTest.testTransferRangeTombstones failure"
Fri Sep 23 20:33:11 2016  jkni:paulomotta might be more helpful. Slow closing connections on streaming, doesn't look gossip related
Fri Sep 23 20:33:31 2016  jkni:It might be an environmental thing with the spike in failures all in one run
Fri Sep 23 20:34:00 2016  exlt:thanks, appreciate the look
Fri Sep 23 20:35:42 2016  exlt:didn't fail on the same sha in testall or compression - looks like a flake
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Fri Sep 23 20:56:53 2016  jkni:Yeah - I didn't see anything similar on multiple CI runs across 2.2/3.0/3.9 versions of that patch either
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Fri Sep 23 22:04:17 2016  paulomotta:yeah, this seems like an environmental problem, we need to either increase timeout or make this more deterministic
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Fri Sep 23 22:48:03 2016  iamaleksey:exlt: let's just get it over with
Fri Sep 23 22:55:35 2016  exlt:yep. driftx did bring up a good point.. why are we doing duplicate release, again? is it still a valid reason, whatever that was?
Fri Sep 23 22:56:38 2016  driftx:I don't care that much either way, fwiw, just kinda strange
Fri Sep 23 22:56:41 2016  exlt:I can release this as 3.8 and we just continue counting
Fri Sep 23 22:56:59 2016  exlt:I agree, and I've thought it was strange, too
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Fri Sep 23 23:03:56 2016  iamaleksey:we had good reasons, but kept missing the ETA again and again;
Fri Sep 23 23:04:06 2016  iamaleksey:keeping 3.0.x and 3.x in sync was the major one
Fri Sep 23 23:05:08 2016  iamaleksey:release this way, and wel'll at least have 3.10 and 3.0.10 together; I think we care less now that we failed with 3.8/3.9 so many times, and you can only care about something for so many times
Fri Sep 23 23:05:46 2016  iamaleksey:but why even bother having that debate again? just do both; it's no big deal
Fri Sep 23 23:07:43 2016  exlt:yeah, releasing both was where I was headed, but the suggestion made me wonder again :)
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