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Thu Nov 17 18:31:08 2016  aweisberg:On major version upgrade how do I deal with APIs like JMX that return the wrong value now. Either they return an inet address or a string that only contains an address. So existing consumers won't know how to handle an added port. Do I expect clients to be upgraded to handle changes or do I add new parallel methods that return the new values?
Thu Nov 17 18:32:50 2016  thobbs:Ideally, you would add new methods that return the address+port combination, deprecate the old methods, and make a comment with the version that they can be removed after
Thu Nov 17 18:33:51 2016  thobbs:also, document the changes in NEWS.txt
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Thu Nov 17 19:12:45 2016  aweisberg:OK. Bummer. This stuff is everywhere.
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Thu Nov 17 19:54:13 2016  iamaleksey:maintaining compat is a ton of work
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Thu Nov 17 20:31:09 2016  zanson:darn users always whining when the rug gets pulled out from under them
Thu Nov 17 20:31:16 2016  zznate:JMX is an externally facing API. must be deprecate+add
Thu Nov 17 20:31:29 2016  zznate:and you dont want the operators waiting for you outside your house
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Thu Nov 17 21:15:48 2016  aweisberg:What about adding new versions of already deprecated methods? 🙀
Thu Nov 17 21:15:49 2016  aweisberg:StorageService has a lot of deprecated methods using addresses
Thu Nov 17 21:17:03 2016  aweisberg:zanson: Lightweights. Expecting a major version upgrade without and offering of blood and tears. 😈
Thu Nov 17 21:18:08 2016  zanson:for already deprecated stuff you are probably OK not offering new versions
Thu Nov 17 21:19:40 2016  zanson:maybe even do a ticket to remove the deprecated finally with 4.0 as well
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Thu Nov 17 21:54:17 2016  zznate:^agreed. stuff on SS has been deprecated for a while now. We can kill that in 4.0, IMO, we just need to make super sure we put good details in NEWS.txt (and update the 'monitoring' page on the ASF site since that is actually detailed/useful enough to use as a reference)
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