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Thu Apr 6 21:12:56 2017  hboutemy:stephenc: ready for the release tonight? :)
Thu Apr 6 21:14:19 2017  Michael-O:hboutemy, have you or Robert reached out to Christian?
Thu Apr 6 21:16:29 2017  hboutemy:personally no
Thu Apr 6 21:22:52 2017  Michael-O:Do you think it is worth a try?
Thu Apr 6 21:26:41 2017  hboutemy:I'm tired of being indulgent
Thu Apr 6 21:27:02 2017  hboutemy:and playing the cop as I had to play
Thu Apr 6 21:28:10 2017  hboutemy:it's sad, since I hoped we could work together, discuss, chat on IRC, and so on...
Thu Apr 6 21:29:02 2017  Michael-O:I have participated on another Apache project left year, but left. The sole maintainer wise like a dictator. I wasn't rally happy with. Every idea has smashed.
Thu Apr 6 21:30:44 2017  hboutemy:I'm not happy having to act as a cop
Thu Apr 6 21:32:07 2017  hboutemy:yes, new ideas are good, we just have to work together and explain things in both directions
Thu Apr 6 21:33:14 2017  hboutemy:I had a look at https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-3.x-jenkinsfile/job/MNG-6169%252Fupdated-MJAR/1/console
Thu Apr 6 21:33:45 2017  hboutemy:Could not find artifact org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-resources-plugin:jar:3.0.2 in central (file:target/null)
Thu Apr 6 21:34:04 2017  hboutemy:looks like a plugin version should be locked in an IT
Thu Apr 6 21:35:09 2017  Michael-O:That's not the reason. This not found issue happens once in a while. Stephen and Robert know why. At the moment they can't do anything about it.
Thu Apr 6 21:35:27 2017  Michael-O:You have to rerun the tests.
Thu Apr 6 21:35:54 2017  hboutemy:?
Thu Apr 6 21:36:22 2017  Michael-O:It's artifactnotfoundexception, right?
Thu Apr 6 21:36:28 2017  hboutemy:yes
Thu Apr 6 21:36:46 2017  Michael-O:That's a general problem with the ITs
Thu Apr 6 21:36:52 2017  hboutemy:no, no problem
Thu Apr 6 21:36:55 2017  hboutemy:but feature
Thu Apr 6 21:36:59 2017  hboutemy:= bootstrap
Thu Apr 6 21:37:24 2017  Michael-O:that's a feature? Why?
Thu Apr 6 21:37:27 2017  hboutemy:http://maven.apache.org/core-its/core-it-suite/bootstrap.html
Thu Apr 6 21:37:56 2017  hboutemy:I documented it since it is not well known
Thu Apr 6 21:38:03 2017  Michael-O:That's a busload of items
Thu Apr 6 21:38:17 2017  hboutemy:and I fixed https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/core-integration-testing-maven-3-embedded/
Thu Apr 6 21:38:48 2017  hboutemy:by locking down a few plugins versions in a fewITs
Thu Apr 6 21:40:24 2017  Michael-O:Just checked, this might solve some of the issues I am expriencing at work.
Thu Apr 6 21:40:30 2017  Michael-O:Will check tomorrow
Thu Apr 6 21:41:43 2017  Michael-O:I still wasn't able to file the issues I have found
Thu Apr 6 21:41:49 2017  Michael-O:way too busy the last couple of dayxs
Thu Apr 6 21:42:06 2017  hboutemy:yes, it's sometimes hard to find time
Thu Apr 6 21:42:36 2017  hboutemy:and there are many subtle things in core that can bite you
Thu Apr 6 21:43:01 2017  hboutemy:I'm trying to document them as soon as I understand them sufficiently (and it takes sometimes years...)
Thu Apr 6 21:43:55 2017  Michael-O:Did you read Brian Fox' mail?
Thu Apr 6 21:44:04 2017  Michael-O:I think the automodules will break a lot
Thu Apr 6 21:54:33 2017  hboutemy:yes, I just read it
Thu Apr 6 21:54:43 2017  hboutemy:and in fact, we discussed 1 hour on it with Remi Forax
Thu Apr 6 21:56:11 2017  hboutemy:I'm not sure there is so often conflicts in reality: how many wars files need to rename files when building WEB-INF/lib ?
Thu Apr 6 21:56:28 2017  hboutemy:but default module name is just a default value
Thu Apr 6 21:56:59 2017  hboutemy:the sooner people declare their official module name, the better
Thu Apr 6 21:57:40 2017  hboutemy:and the fact that nobody wants to tie their name to Maven coordinates, because Maven is a question of love/hate, I can understand it
Thu Apr 6 22:10:15 2017  hboutemy:Michael-O: time to sleep
Thu Apr 6 22:10:17 2017  hboutemy:good night
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