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Sun Apr 23 14:53:58 2017  rfscholte:hboutemy: Hi Herv√©
Sun Apr 23 14:54:09 2017  rfscholte:looking at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DOXIA-554
Sun Apr 23 14:54:53 2017  rfscholte:IMHO title doesn't reflect the issue anymore. It's more about replaces pegdown, right?
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Sun Apr 23 15:15:39 2017  hboutemy:rfscholte: in fact, both are true
Sun Apr 23 15:15:46 2017  hboutemy:the new implementation fixes this issue
Sun Apr 23 15:15:56 2017  hboutemy:I'll rework the title
Sun Apr 23 15:17:41 2017  rfscholte:cool, will update jigsaw documentation as well
Sun Apr 23 15:24:32 2017  hboutemy:I just updated Wiki page
Sun Apr 23 15:24:32 2017  hboutemy:rfscholte: there is an idea that I'd like to share
Sun Apr 23 15:24:32 2017  hboutemy:but did not have time on the ML
Sun Apr 23 15:24:33 2017  hboutemy:do you have a few minutes?
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Sun Apr 23 15:25:39 2017  rfscholte:sure, I have time
Sun Apr 23 15:25:45 2017  hboutemy:ok, thanks
Sun Apr 23 15:25:58 2017  hboutemy:when working on dependencies:offline
Sun Apr 23 15:26:14 2017  hboutemy:I went to this idea that Maven distribution should distribute default plugins
Sun Apr 23 15:26:22 2017  hboutemy:with dependencies
Sun Apr 23 15:26:29 2017  hboutemy:I don't know how to really do this
Sun Apr 23 15:27:02 2017  hboutemy:but this would avoid the first downloads that give the "Maven downloads the internet" effect
Sun Apr 23 15:27:15 2017  hboutemy:and prove that Maven core is not about core but also plugins
Sun Apr 23 15:28:52 2017  rfscholte:I'm not sure if that reputation is still a real problem.
Sun Apr 23 15:29:00 2017  hboutemy:and later, I'm sure this would permit to have default packaging as separate artifacts
Sun Apr 23 15:29:57 2017  hboutemy:I'm pretty convinced this would provide better understandng of how core uses plugins, particularly default ones, to do the build
Sun Apr 23 15:30:18 2017  hboutemy:but yes, I'm not sure this is worth the effort nowadays...
Sun Apr 23 15:30:36 2017  rfscholte:I think there are ways to make the installation of Maven better, but that requires some sort of wizard, which can set JAVA_HOME and add maven home to the path
Sun Apr 23 15:31:20 2017  hboutemy:this is making installation more than "unzip": that's another topic
Sun Apr 23 15:31:55 2017  rfscholte:prefilling the local repository could also be a wizard-step
Sun Apr 23 15:32:41 2017  hboutemy:I don't see the default artifacts as "prefill the local repository" but more "download them inside the distribution"
Sun Apr 23 15:32:59 2017  hboutemy:of course, the result is the same
Sun Apr 23 15:33:00 2017  rfscholte:like a second local repository
Sun Apr 23 15:33:19 2017  rfscholte:?
Sun Apr 23 15:33:22 2017  hboutemy:that's the way of explaining it that I don't like :)
Sun Apr 23 15:33:38 2017  hboutemy:this one is meant to be read-only
Sun Apr 23 15:34:07 2017  hboutemy:it's just a default read-only repository, with useful content
Sun Apr 23 15:34:34 2017  hboutemy:and more thought as remote (even if obviously its url will be file://"
Sun Apr 23 15:34:49 2017  rfscholte:Aether was already aware of chaining local repositories, so I think this can be done easily.
Sun Apr 23 15:35:32 2017  hboutemy:currently , we define "central": we would define also "default-artifacts"
Sun Apr 23 15:38:43 2017  rfscholte:it's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure if we're really helping the community
Sun Apr 23 15:38:44 2017  hboutemy:or find a better name
Sun Apr 23 15:38:44 2017  hboutemy:one advantage is that you could "mvn dependency:go-offline" with one Maven version and use the content with another Maven version, that has other default plugins
Sun Apr 23 15:38:45 2017  hboutemy:that's the first use case that I had in mind
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Sun Apr 23 15:39:48 2017  hboutemy:another topic: I'm updating http://maven.apache.org/repository/
Sun Apr 23 15:39:58 2017  hboutemy:removing Codehaus repo
Sun Apr 23 15:40:09 2017  rfscholte:+1
Sun Apr 23 15:40:21 2017  hboutemy:I think that I should remove java.net and JBoss
Sun Apr 23 15:40:30 2017  hboutemy:but I'd like to find another repo
Sun Apr 23 15:40:33 2017  hboutemy:to put instead
Sun Apr 23 15:40:40 2017  hboutemy:Eclipse?
Sun Apr 23 15:40:52 2017  hboutemy:do you have any idea?
Sun Apr 23 15:41:23 2017  rfscholte:what's the problem with java.net and JBoss as an example?
Sun Apr 23 15:41:43 2017  hboutemy:java.net does not exist any more
Sun Apr 23 15:41:56 2017  hboutemy:but I just looked: JBoss still exists
Sun Apr 23 15:42:10 2017  hboutemy:I'm not sure it is actively maintained, but at least, it exists
Sun Apr 23 15:44:02 2017  rfscholte:I think it is still used. But you should connect to an explicit JBoss repository. Some examples on the internet point to a public/group and that can cause issues due to collisions with Central
Sun Apr 23 15:46:02 2017  hboutemy:currently, it points to http://repository.jboss.org/maven2/
Sun Apr 23 15:47:30 2017  rfscholte:don't like that: http://repository.jboss.org/org/apache/maven/
Sun Apr 23 15:47:46 2017  rfscholte:these should be done via Central
Sun Apr 23 15:49:51 2017  rfscholte:https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/content/repositories/releases/
Sun Apr 23 15:52:43 2017  hboutemy:that's why every time I want to update http://maven.apache.org/repository/ I'm stuck
Sun Apr 23 15:52:43 2017  hboutemy:because I start by fixing Codehaus, then fail on other issues :)
Sun Apr 23 15:52:43 2017  hboutemy:perhpas I should just fix what I know how to fix, and let other issues for later
Sun Apr 23 15:52:44 2017  hboutemy:add Eclipse reop was soething that I thought would be great also, since it's a big foundation, not a companyu
Sun Apr 23 15:52:45 2017  hboutemy:but could not define if I should add it as synced or independant...
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Sun Apr 23 15:55:10 2017  hboutemy:there was also the question of pointing to https://repo.eclipse.org/ or https://repo.eclipse.org/content/groups/releases/ or any other repo inside the manager...
Sun Apr 23 15:55:33 2017  hboutemy:I think I'll just remove java.net and Codehaus since they don't exist
Sun Apr 23 15:55:49 2017  hboutemy:I'll see later for JBoss change or Eclipse addition, or anything else
Sun Apr 23 15:56:57 2017  rfscholte:sounds good to me
Sun Apr 23 15:58:44 2017  hboutemy:having this schema updated from time to time, in a normal pace, will make it better over time
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