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Sun May 21 09:33:23 2017  tibor_:@stephenc Hi Stephen. Would these two work on OSX the same like on linux and freebsd?
Sun May 21 09:33:26 2017  tibor_:ps -o start,args -p 27000
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Sun May 21 11:53:32 2017  stephenc:rfscholte: saw your jax video interview
Sun May 21 11:54:43 2017  rfscholte::)
Sun May 21 11:55:21 2017  rfscholte:wasn't the best one
Sun May 21 11:56:05 2017  rfscholte:upfront we talked about the topics which we should talk about and which not
Sun May 21 11:56:50 2017  rfscholte:still got some questions I could not answer right now due to the whole J9 situation
Sun May 21 11:57:07 2017  stephenc:Yeah it was too short
Sun May 21 11:57:30 2017  stephenc:I watched it for the m5 discussion but that got lost at the end
Sun May 21 11:58:23 2017  rfscholte:right, I understand.
Sun May 21 11:59:29 2017  rfscholte:that happened because during the panel discussion the module-info generation by Maven was questioned.
Sun May 21 11:59:46 2017  rfscholte:Remi said that it should be possible if we changed the pom
Sun May 21 11:59:47 2017  stephenc:How far off being able to do 3.5.1 do you think we are
Sun May 21 12:00:16 2017  rfscholte:so I had to explain that this is not going to happen, and maybe with M5, but I still think it doesn't fit there
Sun May 21 12:00:28 2017  rfscholte:let me check
Sun May 21 12:00:32 2017  stephenc:I've been stuck planning a fix for a security issue for Jenkins
Sun May 21 12:00:48 2017  stephenc:So haven't been able to give maven much attention
Sun May 21 12:01:24 2017  stephenc:I'd like to get a 3.5.1 out in early June of possible
Sun May 21 12:01:38 2017  rfscholte:I know have a daily conference call with the JSR 376 Expert Group, so that'll claim quite some time
Sun May 21 12:03:27 2017  rfscholte:So I've sent a list with all 3.5.1-candiates, some I gave a +1 but most are still waiting to be seconded
Sun May 21 12:04:10 2017  rfscholte:right now still 24 3.5.1-candidates, not much moved to 3.5.1
Sun May 21 12:06:42 2017  stephenc:Ok I'll see if I can review later today
Sun May 21 12:07:12 2017  stephenc:How is jogsaw progressing
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Sun May 21 17:41:20 2017  hboutemy:rfscholte: Hi Robert, I just had a look at your interview at Jaxcenter
Sun May 21 17:41:29 2017  hboutemy:you're a star, now :)
Sun May 21 17:41:58 2017  hboutemy:FYI, on the consumer pom, I fear it won't be so small
Sun May 21 17:42:22 2017  hboutemy:smaller than a full effective pom, since buidl part is removed
Sun May 21 17:42:54 2017  hboutemy:but effective dependencies, dependencyManagement, team and so on may make it bigger than expected
Sun May 21 17:43:07 2017  hboutemy:and bigger than the build pom, that inherits a lot
Sun May 21 18:26:50 2017  rfscholte:hboutemy: that's true
Sun May 21 18:29:08 2017  rfscholte:smaller was probably not the best word, but "effective" smaller compared to all the separate poms, that's what it is.
Sun May 21 18:50:28 2017  hboutemy:in fact, the benefit is not the size: it's to be able to have new build features
Sun May 21 19:16:34 2017  rfscholte:not just that. if new features are just build-related, you could still port the new pom back to 4.0.0 and upload it.
Sun May 21 19:16:58 2017  rfscholte:anyway, I think we're all convinced still will be a good step forward
Sun May 21 19:33:56 2017  hboutemy:"port the new pom back to 4.0.0 and upload it": that's the definition of consumer pom, isn't it?
Sun May 21 19:34:23 2017  hboutemy:because I suppose you can't port the build part: you'll port only the consumer part
Sun May 21 20:29:05 2017  rfscholte:Right, porting back the uploaded pom means that it is usable to be consumed by all current tools.
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