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Mon Sep 18 19:10:59 2017  rfscholte:stephenc: yt?
Mon Sep 18 20:15:16 2017  stephenc:rfscholte: so did you see my testing results
Mon Sep 18 20:16:30 2017  rfscholte:yeah, I'm making an excel sheet of it right now
Mon Sep 18 20:16:47 2017  stephenc:it's not nice from my PoV
Mon Sep 18 20:17:13 2017  stephenc:the component lookup via "plexus" is random
Mon Sep 18 20:17:22 2017  stephenc:but at least it includes all it should include
Mon Sep 18 20:17:59 2017  stephenc:the plugin realm (when you get it) includes the build/extensions but not the plugins that are declared as extensions... but at least the plugin itself seems first
Mon Sep 18 20:18:11 2017  stephenc:the project realm seems to be missing the plugins
Mon Sep 18 20:18:20 2017  stephenc:and all the realms seem to be in reverse order
Mon Sep 18 20:19:12 2017  stephenc:now we could declare the project realm not having the plugins that are extensions as a separate bug (and the ordering as another bug on top)
Mon Sep 18 20:19:40 2017  stephenc:but I'd really prefer if we got some more eyes on this before deciding to cut a release
Mon Sep 18 20:20:24 2017  stephenc:I'm rather reluctant to close 3.5.1 with out at least deciding what the direction we want to take it in is
Mon Sep 18 20:20:33 2017  rfscholte:yes, I wonder if e.g. assembly would still break if these classrealms work as expected
Mon Sep 18 20:20:59 2017  stephenc:I suspect it would not break if the classrealms worked the way I *believe* they should
Mon Sep 18 20:21:08 2017  stephenc:but we suffer greatly from an actual specification
Mon Sep 18 20:21:17 2017  stephenc:not being documented
Mon Sep 18 20:21:20 2017  rfscholte:right
Mon Sep 18 20:21:35 2017  stephenc:the only spec we have is the acceptance tests
Mon Sep 18 20:22:00 2017  rfscholte:and we're missing people trying to understand and verify these changes
Mon Sep 18 20:22:05 2017  stephenc:yep
Mon Sep 18 20:22:22 2017  stephenc:I've tried to engage Igor, but no response so far today
Mon Sep 18 20:22:32 2017  stephenc:perhaps he is at Javaone
Mon Sep 18 20:22:38 2017  stephenc:or preping for same
Mon Sep 18 20:22:41 2017  rfscholte:I don't think so
Mon Sep 18 20:22:58 2017  stephenc:ok, well we'll give it another day
Mon Sep 18 20:23:12 2017  rfscholte:I know Manfred is trying to pull Jason to J1
Mon Sep 18 20:23:25 2017  stephenc:if you have any thoughts to add to that mail (to try and at least flag that I'm not on a solo interpretation)
Mon Sep 18 20:23:38 2017  stephenc:yep Jason has gone awol from the project alright
Mon Sep 18 20:24:06 2017  rfscholte:I'm working on an overview, will mail it once finished
Mon Sep 18 20:24:11 2017  stephenc:ok, I've got to turn this computer off for the night
Mon Sep 18 20:24:16 2017  stephenc:thanks
Mon Sep 18 20:24:23 2017  rfscholte:np, and thank you!

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