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Fri Mar 31 04:37:29 2017  amosbird:hi
Fri Mar 31 04:37:36 2017  amosbird:why do we need submodules?
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Fri Mar 31 08:50:00 2017  Maldivia:amosbird: you don't _need_ submodules -- but then again, you don't need multiple packages either, heck you could put all your code into a single file if you wanted... but it's kind of nice to divide things into logical units
Fri Mar 31 08:55:07 2017  amosbird:Maldivia: well, I fail to see the difference between package and submodule
Fri Mar 31 08:55:40 2017  Maldivia:amosbird: it's just the next abstraction level -- package = collection of classes, module = collection of packages
Fri Mar 31 09:00:34 2017  Maldivia:that being said, a module can also consist of a single package :D
Fri Mar 31 09:00:53 2017  selckin:sometimes when you buy furnuture at ikea, you get 2 boxes!
Fri Mar 31 09:06:06 2017  amosbird:Maldivia: this is what confuses me. Why another abstraction?
Fri Mar 31 09:06:56 2017  Maldivia:amosbird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_programming
Fri Mar 31 09:08:20 2017  Maldivia:amosbird: not that's it's all that -- it's more that you know -- Ok, these classes in theses packages fit together, and form one module/service/functionality
Fri Mar 31 09:11:21 2017  Maldivia:amosbird: just like all your dependencies are separate modules (perhaps even consisting of multiple modules)
Fri Mar 31 09:14:29 2017  amosbird:Maldivia: I still don't understand. We can have sub packages for that
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Fri Mar 31 09:15:53 2017  Maldivia:Yea, but when you suddenly have an app with 500 packages, then it makes it a lot easier to maintain and understand if it's split into modules
Fri Mar 31 09:16:34 2017  amosbird:how do modules help that?
Fri Mar 31 09:17:14 2017  Maldivia:Because then you know package x, y and z covers functionality N etc
Fri Mar 31 09:18:04 2017  Maldivia:As said, it's a way to cluster packages together to form units
Fri Mar 31 09:18:18 2017  Maldivia:Just like a package clusters classes together
Fri Mar 31 09:19:35 2017  Maldivia:Just like the world is separated into continents, countries, regions, cities, suburbs, before we come to the individual houses
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Fri Mar 31 09:41:36 2017  fredcooke:amosbird: are you against splitting code into related chunks, or against doing it in multimodule builds? I'm against the latter, and for the former.
Fri Mar 31 09:41:55 2017  fredcooke:I use MM only when the things within have the same lifecycle for some reason, but should be split for some other reason.
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Fri Mar 31 09:50:15 2017  amosbird:fredcooke: yeah, the latter
Fri Mar 31 09:51:01 2017  amosbird:Maldivia: then we can have subproject, subartifact, subanything, why stop at modules
Fri Mar 31 09:51:32 2017  Maldivia:amosbird: you stop when it doesn't make sense to abstract anymore
Fri Mar 31 09:52:57 2017  Maldivia:for instance, for Hello World, you don't need modules or packages, a class is enough
Fri Mar 31 10:01:47 2017  fredcooke:who needs a class, you could do that in ASM :-p
Fri Mar 31 10:06:07 2017  fredcooke:PS, abstraction and organisation are different words
Fri Mar 31 10:12:06 2017  Maldivia:yes, and modules provide both :)
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Fri Mar 31 10:34:24 2017  fredcooke:false
Fri Mar 31 10:37:44 2017  Maldivia:ok, they _can_ provide both
Fri Mar 31 10:45:24 2017  martinus__:How do I get stats for the artifacts sync'd up at maven central exactly ?
Fri Mar 31 10:45:42 2017  martinus__:I suppose I need credentials
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Fri Mar 31 10:46:25 2017  martinus__:I'm on http://blog.sonatype.com/2010/12/now-available-central-download-statistics-for-oss-projects/
Fri Mar 31 10:47:11 2017  martinus__:"Current OSSRH, Apache and Codehaus users don't need to do anything to gain access to these statistics. " "If you have deployer permissions for your project," it seems to but where I should look for ?
Fri Mar 31 10:48:00 2017  martinus__:I'm the admin of the Nexus instance where the artifacts for several projects sits
Fri Mar 31 10:48:18 2017  martinus__:And my goal is to get stats per project
Fri Mar 31 10:48:25 2017  martinus__:(download stats)
Fri Mar 31 10:50:47 2017  martinus__:as far as I know, artifacts are pulled with rsync from maven central
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